ClaimsNate Silver

“Although John McCain had periods of strong polling in 2008, especially after the Republican Convention, in the end Barack Obama won in a landslide that didn’t justify Democrats’ constant anxieties.”

Nate Silver, author of Silver Bulletin 9 October 2024 When you should panic about the polls (Silver Bulletin) archived copy

Factual Science and research methods Political

John McCain had periods of strong polling in 2008, especially after the Republican Convention, but Barack Obama won in a landslide.

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What would count as true or false

Judged against 2008 polling history and certified results. True: McCain led or was competitive in national polling at times, notably after the September 2008 Republican convention, and Obama won decisively (about 7.3 points in the popular vote, 365-173 in the Electoral College), which is widely described as a landslide or decisive win. Mostly true: both hold, but 'landslide' is somewhat generous, or the timing of McCain's strong stretch differs slightly. Mixed: one part holds and the other does not. Mostly false: McCain never had notably strong polling, though Obama won clearly. False: McCain had no strong periods and Obama's win was narrow.

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Evidence (4)

  1. E1 Gallup Daily: McCain Maintains 5-Point Lead Gallup · 9 September 2008

    “McCain led Obama by five percentage points in Monday's report on the strength of a six-point increase in the percentage of voters choosing him on the presidential trial heat following the Republican National Convention.”
  2. E2 Obama's Road to the White House: A Gallup Review Gallup · 5 November 2008

    “McCain then succeeded in overtaking Obama after the Republican National Convention in September.”
  3. E3 Obama's Road to the White House: A Gallup Review Gallup · 5 November 2008

    “At this point, McCain experienced his longest front-runner stretch of the general-election phase of the campaign: 10 days from Sept. 7 to Sept. 16.”
  4. E4 2008 Electoral College Results U.S. National Archives (National Archives and Records Administration) · 5 November 2019

    “Electoral Vote | Winner: 365 | Main Opponent: 173 | Total/Majority: 538/270”

Reasoning

Gallup reported that McCain moved to a 5-point lead after the Republican National Convention (E1). Its post-election review says McCain overtook Obama after the September convention and led for 10 days, from Sept. 7 to Sept. 16 (E2, E3). The National Archives record shows Obama winning the Electoral College 365 to 173 (E4), the decisive margin the criteria name. None of the evidence gives the popular-vote margin, but both parts of the claim hold under the criteria.

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Nate Silver, “John McCain had periods of strong polling in 2008, especially after the Republican Convention, but Barack Obama won in a landslide.” (said 9 October 2024). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_506f78dc2cd5, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_506f78dc2cd5

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