ClaimsScott Alexander

“This is true only insofar as I once expressed agreement with an unrelated position of Charles Murray’s”

Scott Alexander, blog author 14 February 2021 Statement on New York Times Article (Astral Codex Ten) archived copy

Factual Their own work or organisation

Scott Alexander said the NYT's characterisation was true only insofar as he once expressed agreement with an unrelated Charles Murray position: that telling poor people to learn to code is insufficient and a stable income is needed.

Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.

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The evidence is the person's or their organisation's own records.

What would count as true or false

True if Scott Alexander's writings before February 2021 show that his only notable expressed agreement with Charles Murray was on an unrelated topic, namely that a guaranteed or basic income is needed rather than just telling poor people to learn to code (Murray's UBI position). Mostly true if that agreement exists and other agreements were trivial or passing. Mixed if he had expressed agreement with Murray on a few other substantive points. Mostly false if he expressed agreement with Murray on several topics, including ones related to the NYT's characterisation (such as Murray's views on race or IQ), while the UBI agreement is real. False if the UBI agreement did not happen, or if he had clearly and repeatedly endorsed the views the NYT linked him to.

Set before the research began.

Evidence (4)

  1. E1 Three Great Articles On Poverty, And Why I Disagree With All Of Them Slate Star Codex (Scott Alexander's blog) · 23 May 2016 Own record

    “His solution is a basic income guarantee, and I guess that’s mine too.”
  2. E2 Three Great Articles On Poverty, And Why I Disagree With All Of Them Slate Star Codex (Scott Alexander's blog) · 23 May 2016 Own record

    “But he shares my skepticism that the 55 year old Kentucky trucker can be taught to code, and I don’t think he’s too sanguine about the trucker’s kids either.”
  3. E3 Sacred Principles As Exhaustible Resources Slate Star Codex (Scott Alexander's blog) · 11 April 2017 Own record

    “If Charles Murray sincerely believes what he says, thinks it’s important, and thinks that saying it makes the world a better place, then he is exactly the sort of person whom free speech exists to defend.”
  4. E4 Book Review: The Cult Of Smart Astral Codex Ten (Scott Alexander's blog) · 18 February 2021 Own record

    “A while ago, I freaked out upon finding a study that seemed to show most expert scientists in the field agreed with Murray's thesis in 1987”

Reasoning

Alexander's own 2016 post records the agreement directly. He says Murray's basic income guarantee is his solution too (E1), and that Murray shares his doubt that a 55-year-old trucker can be taught to code (E2). The 2017 post (E3) defends Murray's right to free speech but does not endorse his views on race or IQ. E4 was published after the 2021-02-14 judge-as-of date, so it was not used. The evidence confirms the UBI agreement but cannot show there were no other agreements, so this is mostly true rather than true.

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Scott Alexander, “Scott Alexander said the NYT's characterisation was true only insofar as he once expressed agreement with an unrelated Charles Murray position: that telling poor people to learn to code is insufficient and a stable income is needed.” (said 14 February 2021). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_399e9fab9cfd, method 0.1.0+8bea457b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_399e9fab9cfd

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