ClaimsNate Silver

“If we calibrated the model based on presidential elections since 2000 only — which have featured largely accurate polling — Clinton’s chances would rise to 95 percent, and Trump’s would fall to 5 percent.”

Nate Silver, FiveThirtyEight editor-in-chief, column author 2016 Election Update: Why Our Model Is More Bullish Than Others On Trump (FiveThirtyEight) archived copy

Factual Science and research methods Political

If the model were calibrated only on presidential elections since 2000, Clinton's chances would rise to 95 percent and Trump's fall to 5 percent.

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What would count as true or false

This is a counterfactual about Silver's own model, so the record is FiveThirtyEight's published 2016 analysis or methodology. True: a FiveThirtyEight publication from 2016 states that calibrating the model only on presidential elections since 2000 would give Clinton about 95% and Trump about 5%. Mostly true: the published figures differ slightly, e.g. 94–96%. Mixed: the published figures differ substantially, or the counterfactual is described differently, e.g. using a different period or calibration. Mostly false: the published analysis shows a materially different counterfactual figure. False: FiveThirtyEight's published analysis contradicts the claim.

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Evidence (1)

  1. E1 Nate Silver’s Forecast (Probably) Overstates Trump’s Chances New York Magazine (Intelligencer) · 7 November 2016

    “Silver’s model looks at the race’s volatility over the past three months — and the relatively large numbers of third-party and undecided voters — and discounts the security of Clinton’s longtime polling advantage.”

Reasoning

The only evidence, E2, is a New York Magazine piece saying Silver's model gives weight to the race's volatility and to the large number of third-party and undecided voters. It does not mention calibrating the model only on presidential elections since 2000. It also gives no counterfactual probabilities for Clinton or Trump. No FiveThirtyEight publication was provided, so the claimed 95%/5% figures cannot be checked against the record the criteria require.

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Nate Silver, “If the model were calibrated only on presidential elections since 2000, Clinton's chances would rise to 95 percent and Trump's fall to 5 percent.” (said 2016). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_36d99b2e78ed, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_36d99b2e78ed

This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.

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