ClaimsJeremy Grantham

“I used to call profit margins the most dependably mean-reverting series in finance.”

Jeremy Grantham, GMO co-founder, letter author 2017 1Q 2017 GMO Quarterly Letter: Up At Night (GMO)

Factual Economics and markets

Grantham used to call profit margins the most dependably mean-reverting series in finance.

Resolved true The record shows it happened or was so.

Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?

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What would count as true or false

This is a claim about Grantham's own earlier statements. True: a dated earlier writing or interview by Grantham (e.g. a GMO quarterly letter) calls profit margins the most (dependably) mean-reverting series in finance, or uses substantially equivalent wording. Mostly true: he made the same point in slightly different words (e.g. 'probably the most mean-reverting series'). Mixed: he said margins were strongly mean-reverting but never ranked them as the most. Mostly false: he only made weaker or passing remarks on margin mean-reversion. False: records show he never made such a statement, or attributed the view to someone else.

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Evidence (3)

  1. E1 I’m Hearing A Lot Of Smart People Use ‘The Four Most Dangerous Words In Investing’ These Days, Part Deux The Felder Report (Jesse Felder) · 11 May 2017

    “Grantham has clearly changed his mind about the phenomenon of mean-reversion in the markets.”
  2. E2 Danger: Steep drop ahead (Sept. 17, 2007) | Fortune Fortune · 17 September 2007 Own record

    “They are the most dependably mean-reverting series in finance: If high margins do not attract greater competition, then a wheel has fallen off the capitalist machine.”
  3. E3 Valuation Based Equity Market Forecasts - Q2 2014 - ReSolve Asset Management ReSolve Asset Management · 14 July 2014

    “Profit margins are probably the most mean-reverting series in finance, and if profit margins do not mean-revert, then something has gone badly wrong with capitalism.”

Reasoning

E3 is a Fortune piece from September 2007 that is marked as not independent of Grantham, meaning it carries his own words. It says profit margins "are the most dependably mean-reverting series in finance", which is the same wording as the 2017 claim. E2, an independent source from 2017, says Grantham "has clearly changed his mind" about mean-reversion, which fits his having held the earlier view. E4 uses close wording ("probably the most mean-reverting series in finance"), but the quote does not name who said it, so it adds little weight.

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Jeremy Grantham, “Grantham used to call profit margins the most dependably mean-reverting series in finance.” (said 2017). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_e3ed15e878aa, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_e3ed15e878aa

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