U.S. equities are a contender for the highest priced in history.
Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.
What would count as true or false
Use standard U.S. equity valuation measures (Shiller CAPE, trailing or forward P/E, price to sales, market cap to GDP, Tobin's q) as of late July 2025. True: at least one widely used measure was at a record high, or among the top two or three readings in history (for example within about 10% of the all-time peak, such as 2000), so that the market can fairly be called a contender. Mostly true: the measures are around the top 5% of history but somewhat further from the record. Mixed: one measure is near a record while most are well below their peaks. Mostly false: the measures are high but clearly below past peaks by more than about 20%. False: valuations were near or below their historical averages.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (3)
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E1 The stock market just blew through Warren Buffett’s favorite danger signal | Fortune Fortune · 25 July 2025
“The valuation of the Wilshire 5000—which hit a record high on July 23—is now somewhere north of 212% of U.S. GDP, the “Buffett Indicator” shows.”
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E2 Stocks have literally never been this expensive | CNN Business CNN · 2 September 2025
“The S&P 500 on August 12 traded at 3.25 times sales, that metric’s highest level ever, according to FactSet data.”
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E3 Stocks have literally never been this expensive | CNN Business CNN · 2 September 2025
“Not all metrics indicate record high valuations. The S&P 500’s forward price to earnings ratio, a popular measure of valuation, is elevated but not at all-time highs.”
Reasoning
The evidence shows the Buffett Indicator above 212% of GDP in late July 2025 but does not say whether that was a record or how close it was to past peaks [E1], and it shows a record price-to-sales reading only on 12 August, with no late-July reading [E2]; forward P/E was not at an all-time high [E3]. The evidence therefore does not show any standard measure at or near its record as of late July.
Cite this claim
Jeremy Grantham, “U.S. equities are a contender for the highest priced in history.” (said 28 July 2025). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_def041cdbbde, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_def041cdbbde
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
Reply to this claim
More factual claims by Jeremy Grantham
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Mostly false
“the lowest rates in the history of man,”
Bonds currently offer the lowest interest rates in human history.
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Mostly true
“31 years later, the land is not back, and stocks are not back.”
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Mostly true
“one of the two or three lowest relative points in history”
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Mostly true
“Now we have, since ChatGPT and October and November last year, we have a new little flurry of interest that is very concentrated.”
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Mixed
“in 1974 the market did turn up, after a horrific 62% real decline in two years, exactly”
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