ClaimsJeremy Grantham

“By the time China’s growth in demand for metals (and coal) stopped dead, the miners had spent an unprecedented $1.25 trillion in expansion to keep up”

Jeremy Grantham, GMO co-founder January 2016 1Q 2016 GMO Quarterly Letter: Keeping the Faith (GMO via investmentofficer.nl)

Factual Economics and markets

By the time China's demand growth for metals and coal stopped, miners had spent an unprecedented $1.25 trillion on expansion.

Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.

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What would count as true or false

The test is cumulative capital expenditure by the global mining industry (metals and coal) on expansion during the China-driven boom, roughly the 2000s to 2014–2015 when demand growth stalled. True: credible industry estimates put this at about $1.25 trillion (between about $1.1 and $1.4 trillion) and describe it as unprecedented or a record. Mostly true: the estimate is within about 25% of $1.25 trillion, or covers a slightly different scope or period. Mixed: estimates vary widely, with some near the figure and others far from it. Mostly false: real but much smaller or much larger figures (off by more than 25% but less than 50%), or the figure includes things well beyond expansion spending. False: estimates are off by more than half, or there was no boom-scale spending.

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Evidence (3)

  1. E1 2016 Global Metals, Mining & Steel Conference Glencore · 10 May 2016

    “Return on the $1 trillion invested 2003-15 will be dictated largely by management actions”
  2. E2 2016 Global Metals, Mining & Steel Conference Glencore · 10 May 2016

    “Capex of $1 trillion has generally been invested in long life assets”
  3. E3 Record mining splurge makes global impact The Namibian (Nampa-AFP) · 9 December 2011

    “Mining companies’ capital expenditure surged to a record US$140 billion around the world this year, up from US$100 billion in 2010 and less than US$40 billion in 2003, according to RBS research.”

Reasoning

Glencore's 2016 conference deck puts cumulative mining capex for 2003-15 at about $1 trillion (E1, E2). That is roughly 20% below the claimed $1.25 trillion: within the 25% band for mostly true, but outside the $1.1-1.4 trillion range needed for true. RBS research reported mining capex reaching a record $140 billion in 2011, up from under $40 billion in 2003 (E3), which supports describing the spending boom as unprecedented.

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Jeremy Grantham, “By the time China's demand growth for metals and coal stopped, miners had spent an unprecedented $1.25 trillion on expansion.” (said January 2016). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_d04cab28f924, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_d04cab28f924

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