The value of Tesla's battery credits in 2023 will not be gigantic, but could become gigantic later.
Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.
Prediction: Statements about events outside the person's control, checked once they fell due: did they come true?
Said for an organisation they lead or work for; it counts on both records.
What would count as true or false
'Credits' means the US Inflation Reduction Act advanced manufacturing production credits (Section 45X) for batteries that Tesla recognized for 2023. The testable part is that the 2023 value would 'not be gigantic'. The 'could be gigantic' part is a hedged possibility that cannot be checked by 2023 and does not affect the verdict. For this test, 'not gigantic' means the 2023 credits were modest relative to Tesla's 2023 operating income, below about 10% of it. TRUE: 2023 credits were below about 10% of 2023 operating income, and Tesla described them as a modest contribution. MOSTLY TRUE: credits were between about 10% and 15% of operating income. MIXED: credits were between 15% and 25% of operating income. MOSTLY FALSE: credits were between 25% and 50% of operating income. FALSE: credits equalled 50% or more of operating income, or were described by Tesla as a major driver of 2023 profit.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (10)
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E1 Tesla (TSLA) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript & Audio stockanalysis.com · 19 July 2023 Own record
“we provided previous guidance that we expect these to be, for the course of this year, in the range of $150 million-$250 million per quarter.”
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E2 Tesla (TSLA) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript & Audio stockanalysis.com · 19 July 2023 Own record
“We are staying within that boundary as we guided previously, so that was the case in Q2 as well.”
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E3 SEC.gov | HOME U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (filed by Tesla, Inc.) Own record
“Profitability $8.9B GAAP operating income in 2023; $2.1B in Q4”
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E4 Tesla (TSLA) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript & Audio StockAnalysis.com · 19 July 2023 Own record
“we provided previous guidance that we expect these to be, for the course of this year, in the range of $150 million-$250 million per quarter.”
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E5 Tesla (TSLA) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript & Audio StockAnalysis.com · 19 July 2023 Own record
“If we add up the total impact of this in Q2 relative to prior quarter, it's about the same size and magnitude as the IRA benefits that we also received.”
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E6 Q4 and FY 2023 Update Exhibit 99.1 Tesla, Inc. (filed with the SEC as Exhibit 99.1) Own record
“$8.9B GAAP operating income in 2023; $2.1B in Q4”
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E7 Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) | 10-K | 10-K | Period: 2023-12-31 | Filed: 2024-01-29 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (Tesla, Inc. Form 10-K) · 29 January 2024 Own record
“In certain instances our customers may transfer such credits to us as contract consideration. In such transactions, they are included as a component of energy generation and storage revenues in our consolidated statements of operations included elsewhere in this Annual Report on Form 10-K.”
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E8 10-K Annual Report Mon Jan 29 2024 Last10k.com (reproducing Tesla's Q4 and FY 2023 Update, Exhibit 99.1) · 26 January 2024 Own record
“$8.9B GAAP operating income in 2023; $2.1B in Q4”
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E9 10-K Annual Report Mon Jan 29 2024 Last10k.com (reproducing Tesla's Q4 and FY 2023 Update, Exhibit 99.1) · 26 January 2024 Own record
“In millions of USD or shares as applicable, except per share data Q4-2022 Q1-2023 Q2-2023 Q3-2023 Q4-2023 REVENUES Automotive sales 20,241 18,878 20,419 18,582 20,630 Automotive regulatory credits 467 521 282 554 433”
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E10 Tesla (TSLA) releases Q4 2023 results: slight miss on earnings Electrek · 24 January 2024
“Income before taxes is down 50% vs. Q4 of 2022 (ignoring movement in the income tax line - likely related to IRA subsidies to manufacturers)”
Reasoning
Tesla's 2023 GAAP operating income was $8.9B (E3, E6). The only evidence on credit amounts is from Tesla's Q2 2023 earnings call: guidance of $150M–$250M per quarter for the year (E1/E4), and a statement that Q2 stayed within that range (E2). None of the evidence gives the full-year 2023 Section 45X credit total. If that guidance held for all four quarters, the credits would be about 7–11% of operating income, which spans the 'true' and 'mostly true' bands, and the actual figures for Q1, Q3 and Q4 are not in evidence. The remaining items (E7, E9, E10) do not quantify the credits, so the claim cannot be resolved.
Cite this claim
Elon Musk, “The value of Tesla's battery credits in 2023 will not be gigantic, but could become gigantic later.” (said 26 January 2023). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_cc7d6f5174a0, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_cc7d6f5174a0
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
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