ClaimsJeremy Grantham

“For the first time in American history, the real estate market, the bond market, and the stock market”

Jeremy Grantham, interviewed 28 July 2025 Jeremy Grantham: Navigating Bubble-Land (The Acquirer's Multiple)

Factual Economics and markets

For the first time in American history, the real estate, bond and stock markets are simultaneously in bubble territory.

Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.

Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?

The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.

What would count as true or false

Judge as of 28 July 2025. The claim has two parts: (a) US real estate, bonds and stocks were all in bubble territory at once, and (b) this had never happened before in US history. Bubble territory means valuations at historical extremes on standard measures (e.g. Grantham's 2-sigma above-trend definition, CAPE, house price-to-income ratios, bond yields far below historical norms). True: all three met such a standard in July 2025, and no earlier period did so at the same time. Mostly true: both parts hold but one market sat just at the edge of the threshold. Mixed: all three were extreme but there was an earlier episode of the same (including the 2021-22 episode Grantham himself described as an 'everything bubble'), or only two of the three were extreme. Mostly false: only one market was clearly at bubble levels. False: valuations in most or all three markets were not historically extreme in July 2025 (e.g. bond yields at or above historical norms).

Set before the research began.

Evidence (4)

  1. E1 The Bubble Indicator: Is the Stock Market Overheating? Visual Capitalist · 14 February 2025

    “In December 2024, the S&P 500 CAPE ratio stood at 37.9—well above its long-term average of 17.6. Notably, it has only exceeded this level during the Dot-Com bubble and in 2021.”
  2. E2 [PDF] Key Facts Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies · 24 June 2025

    “In 2024, the price-to-income ratio hit 5.0, on par with the record highs reached in 2022 and well above the prepandemic reading of 4.1 in 2019 (Figure 6 & Interactive).”
  3. E3 Table Data - Market Yield on U.S. Treasury Securities at 10-Year Constant Maturity, Quoted on an Investment Basis Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (US), via FRED (St. Louis Fed)

    “| 2025-07-01 | 4.39 |”
  4. E4 Table Data - Market Yield on U.S. Treasury Securities at 10-Year Constant Maturity, Quoted on an Investment Basis Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (US), via FRED (St. Louis Fed)

    “| 2021-05-01 | 1.62 |”

Reasoning

The evidence shows extreme stock and housing valuations in 2024 [E1][E2] and a July 2025 10-year yield of 4.39% [E3], but it does not place that yield against historical norms, so whether the bond market was at bubble levels is not settled. It also does not show all three markets extreme at the same earlier time, so neither path to the verdict is established.

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Jeremy Grantham, “For the first time in American history, the real estate, bond and stock markets are simultaneously in bubble territory.” (said 28 July 2025). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_0a99904eeb31, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_0a99904eeb31

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More factual claims by Jeremy Grantham

  1. Mostly false Factual 28 July 2025
    “the lowest rates in the history of man,”

    Bonds currently offer the lowest interest rates in human history.

  2. Mostly true Factual 28 July 2025
    “31 years later, the land is not back, and stocks are not back.”

    Thirty-one years after Japan's 1989 bubbles, Japanese land prices and stocks had not returned to their 1989 levels.

  3. Mostly true Factual 28 July 2025
    “one of the two or three lowest relative points in history”

    Emerging markets and value stocks trade at one of the two or three lowest relative valuation points in history compared to the U.S.

  4. Mostly true Factual 5 July 2023
    “Now we have, since ChatGPT and October and November last year, we have a new little flurry of interest that is very concentrated.”

    Since ChatGPT and October-November 2022, there has been a new little flurry of market interest in AI that is very concentrated.

  5. Mixed Factual January 2023
    “in 1974 the market did turn up, after a horrific 62% real decline in two years, exactly”

    In 1974 the US market turned up, after a 62% real decline over two years, exactly as the first Fed rate cut took place.

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