Scores by kind of claim
Each kind of claim is scored on its own, out of 100: the share that held up, with the range it likely falls in. Fewer resolved claims give a wider range.
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Factual claims
Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
74 67 80 -
Predictions
Statements about events outside the person's control, checked once they fell due: did they come true?
62 43 81 -
Promises
Commitments to the person's or organisation's own future action, with something to deliver: was it delivered?
Insufficient record: 1 promise resolved, 5 needed for a score.
All types combined: 73 (likely 66 to 79, high confidence), from 72 claims: 66 factual claims, 6 predictions. It mixes kinds of claim in different proportions for different people, so compare people kind by kind.
Michael Burry's claims
1 claim
| Verdict | Kind | Said | Claim | Topic |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mostly false | Prediction | 5 Apr 2011 | US interest expense on the national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion by 2020. Prediction · 5 Apr 2011 | Economics and markets |
“All personal income taxes collected in a year do not so much as add up to $1 trillion dollars, and yet by 2020 interest expense on our national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion.”
Michael Burry, speaking at Vanderbilt lecture 5 April 2011 Transcript of Michael Burry's talk, Missteps to Mayhem (Vanderbilt News)
US interest expense on the national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion by 2020.
Mostly false False in substance, right in a detail.
What would count as true or false
Test: did annual US federal interest expense on the national debt exceed $1 trillion in any fiscal year up to and including FY2020? The claim says 'could', but judge it as a forecast that this would happen by 2020. Use Treasury's reported interest expense. Gross interest on Treasury debt securities counts; if gross and net interest point to different verdicts, say so and take gross interest as the measure the claim's 'interest expense on our national debt' most directly describes. True: interest expense exceeded $1 trillion in FY2020 or earlier. Mostly true: it reached at least about $950 billion (within about 5% of $1 trillion) by FY2020 but did not exceed it. Mixed: not used. Mostly false: it first exceeded $1 trillion only after FY2020, or it reached roughly $700–950 billion by FY2020. False: it stayed well below $1 trillion (under about $700 billion) through FY2020 and did not pass $1 trillion soon after.
Evidence
- Interest on National Debt by Security: FY2026 · TFTC TFTC (compiles US Treasury Fiscal Data) · 4 October 2024
“| FY2020 | $523B | −9.0% | $368B | $30.4B | $209B | $91.7B | $25.9B | $3.9B | $4.6B | $2.9B | $155B |”
- Interest on National Debt by Security: FY2026 · TFTC TFTC (compiles US Treasury Fiscal Data) · 4 October 2024
“| FY2024 | $1.13T | +28.4% | $896B | $306B | $338B | $139B | $71.2B | $30.9B | $6.3B | $4.2B | $237B |”
- Federal Net Interest Costs: A Primer Congressional Budget Office · 15 December 2020
“In fiscal year 2020, the government’s net outlays for interest totaled $345 billion, equal to 1.6 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) and accounting for 5.3 percent of total spending.”
- How and why the government borrows money The Journalist's Resource (Shorenstein Center) · 25 June 2025
“Last fiscal year, the federal government for the first time paid over $1 trillion in interest on outstanding debt accumulated throughout the nation’s existence.”
Reasoning
Treasury gross interest on the public debt was $523B in FY2020 (E1), and CBO reports net interest of $345B that year (E3), so neither measure came near $1 trillion by FY2020. Gross interest did exceed $1 trillion later, reaching $1.13T in FY2024 (E2), and E4 confirms that the government first paid over $1 trillion in interest in a recent fiscal year. Because the $1 trillion level was first passed only after FY2020, this fits the criteria's mostly-false condition, although the FY2020 figure was well under $700B.
Cite this claim
Michael Burry, “US interest expense on the national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion by 2020.” (said 5 April 2011). Verdict: mostly false. Reliability API, claim c_fd00537ecd94, method 0.1.0+c876030c. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_fd00537ecd94
Claims without a verdict
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