ClaimsMichael Burry

“Therefore, in the absence of a new asset bubble, the current level of common stock valuations – and the eagerness with which the public grew to accept such valuations – appears to promise future returns well below those still expected by the investing public.”

Michael Burry, Scion Value Fund manager, annual letter 2002 Scion Funds annual letters compilation (investorkurs.no)

Prediction Economics and markets

Burry said that, absent a new asset bubble, 2001-era US common stock valuations appeared to promise future returns well below those still expected by the investing public.

Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.

Prediction: Statements about events outside the person's control, checked once they fell due: did they come true?

The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.

Said for an organisation they lead or work for; it counts on both records.

What would count as true or false

Test: over roughly the next decade from 2001–2002, were US stock returns well below what the investing public then expected? Compare the S&P 500 annualised total return (about 2002–2012) with investor return expectations reported at the time (for example Gallup/UBS or similar surveys, often around 10% a year or more). True: realised returns were well below expectations (several percentage points a year lower). Mostly true: returns were clearly below expectations, but by a smaller margin. Mixed: they were below over some reasonable horizons and not others. Mostly false: they were only slightly below expectations. False: they matched or exceeded expectations. A new asset bubble that lifted returns is the claim's own exception; note it if relevant.

Set before the research began.

Evidence (4)

  1. E1 The Leftovers of Irrational Exuberance Gallup · 2 September 2003

    “Our results show that on average, American investors expect a 14.3% return on equity investments, more than twice what the experts project.”
  2. E2 Are Equity Returns Worth the Risks? Gallup · 20 August 2002

    “In July 2001, investors said the stock market would provide them with an annual average rate of return of 9.1% over the next 12 months.”
  3. E3 It's Not Really A Lost Decade Forbes (Advisor Network contributor Kevin Mahn, Hennion & Walsh Asset Management) · 13 September 2010

    “When dividends are factored in, the results do not get much better as annualized total return for the S&P 500 index (with dividends reinvested back into the index) over the same timeframe was -0.95%.”
  4. E4 S&P 500 Returns by Decade: The 10% Average Almost No One Actually Lived Through · Finlume Finlume · 15 June 2026

    “The 2000s — often called the “lost decade” — delivered roughly -0.9% per year in nominal total return, dragged down by the dot-com crash (2000-2002) and the 2008 financial crisis.”

Reasoning

The evidence shows investor expectations of 9.1% to 14.3% a year (E1, E2) and an S&P 500 total return of about -0.9% a year for the 2000s decade (E4). That figure includes the 2000–2002 crash, which came before the prediction. E3 does not state its period. No evidence item gives returns for the criteria's window of about 2002–2012.

Cite this claim

Michael Burry, “Burry said that, absent a new asset bubble, 2001-era US common stock valuations appeared to promise future returns well below those still expected by the investing public.” (said 2002). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_aa274017c5b6, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_aa274017c5b6

This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.

Reply to this claim

For Michael Burry, or someone speaking for them: a correction or counter-evidence. Replies are read before anything is shown; an approved reply shows your name, role, date, statement and link. Your email address is never shown and is deleted 30 days after the decision (privacy).

More prediction claims by Michael Burry

  1. Mostly false Prediction 5 April 2011
    “All personal income taxes collected in a year do not so much as add up to $1 trillion dollars, and yet by 2020 interest expense on our national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion.”

    US interest expense on the national debt alone could exceed $1 trillion by 2020.

  2. Resolved true Prediction 5 April 2011
    “Today, I expect the US government to attempt to continue easy money policies into the next presidential term”

    Burry said he expected the US government to attempt to continue easy money policies into the next presidential term.

  3. Mixed Prediction 2008
    “I imagine the shares of these companies, in most cases, will become very boring before they become attractive again.”

    Burry said he imagined that shares of most of these financial companies would become very boring before they became attractive again.

  4. Mostly true Prediction 2008
    “Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now in the cards.”

    Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now likely for financial institutions.

  5. Resolved true Prediction 2007
    “The S&P 500 could easily finish the year in the negative, dragging many investment funds – too many of which are crowded into the same “value-but-for-a-dire-economy” trades – down with it.”

    The S&P 500 could easily finish 2008 with a negative return, dragging down crowded value-oriented investment funds.

All of them

Verdicts are made automatically; how verdicts are made.