ClaimsNate Silver

“Our final forecast, issued early Tuesday evening, had Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College.”

Nate Silver, editor in chief, writing in FiveThirtyEight article November 2016 Why FiveThirtyEight Gave Trump A Better Chance Than Almost Anyone Else (FiveThirtyEight) archived copy

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FiveThirtyEight's final 2016 forecast, issued early on election Tuesday evening, gave Trump a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College.

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What would count as true or false

True if FiveThirtyEight's final 2016 general-election forecast, published on or about the evening of Tuesday 8 November 2016 (the headline model, polls-only), gave Trump a chance of winning the Electoral College that rounds to 29 percent (28.5–29.4%). Mostly true if the figure is 28 or 30 percent, or the timing detail (early Tuesday evening rather than Tuesday morning or late Monday) is slightly off. Mixed if the figure is 27 or 31 percent, or if 29% applies only to a different model version (e.g. polls-plus) and the headline figure differs by 1–2 points. Mostly false if the headline final figure differs by 3–5 points. False if it differs by more than 5 points or no such final forecast existed.

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Evidence (3)

  1. E1 Grading The 2016 Election Forecasts BuzzFeed News · 29 November 2016

    “FiveThirtyEight — “polls-only” and “polls-plus” (29% and 28%, respectively)”
  2. E2 Strengthening Our Democracy: Harris and the Power of Election Prediction University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy · 26 March 2019

    “Their final forecast, issued the evening of the 2016 election, had Trump with a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College (just below the 30 percent chance Trump’s own campaign predicted he had, as reported by FiveThirtyEight).”
  3. E3 U.S. Presidential Election Coverage Drives FiveThirtyEight to Record-Breaking Month in October ESPN Press Room · 18 November 2016

    “In the most uncertain U.S. election in modern history, FiveThirtyEight’s model put the probability of a Donald Trump win at 28.4 percent leading into the election”

Reasoning

E1, an independent post-election grading piece, gives FiveThirtyEight's final 2016 forecasts as 29% for Trump in the polls-only model (the headline model) and 28% in polls-plus. E2 independently says the final forecast was issued on the evening of the election and gave Trump a 29 percent chance. E3's 28.4 percent does not name a model variant, and it fits the 28% polls-plus figure in E1, so it does not contradict the 29% polls-only figure.

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Nate Silver, “FiveThirtyEight's final 2016 forecast, issued early on election Tuesday evening, gave Trump a 29 percent chance of winning the Electoral College.” (said November 2016). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_34bfeae1c3f8, method 0.1.0+28da144b, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_34bfeae1c3f8

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