Scores by kind of claim
Each kind of claim is scored on its own, out of 100: the share that held up, with the range it likely falls in. Fewer resolved claims give a wider range.
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Factual claims
Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
74 67 80 -
Predictions
Statements about events outside the person's control, checked once they fell due: did they come true?
62 43 81 -
Promises
Commitments to the person's or organisation's own future action, with something to deliver: was it delivered?
Insufficient record: 1 promise resolved, 5 needed for a score.
All types combined: 73 (likely 66 to 79, high confidence), from 72 claims: 66 factual claims, 6 predictions. It mixes kinds of claim in different proportions for different people, so compare people kind by kind.
Michael Burry's claims
2 claims
| Verdict | Kind | Said | Claim | Topic |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mostly true | Prediction | 2008 | Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now likely for financial institutions. Prediction · 2008 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Prediction | 2006 | Rising delinquencies and defaults will continue to push delinquency-to-credit-support ratios higher on the subprime tranches Scion is short. Prediction · 2006 | Economics and markets |
“Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now in the cards.”
Michael Burry, Scion fund manager, 1Q 2008 letter 2008 Scion Funds annual letters compilation (investorkurs.no)
Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now likely for financial institutions.
Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.
The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.
Said for an organisation they lead or work for; it counts on both records.
What would count as true or false
Test: in the years after 2008 (about 2009–2013), did US financial institutions run with less leverage and earn lower returns on assets than before the crisis (2004–2006)? True: aggregate leverage fell (for example, higher equity-to-assets ratios at banks or broker-dealers) and ROA stayed below pre-crisis levels. Mostly true: both held, with a minor exception (for example, ROA close to pre-crisis levels in one year). Mixed: one held and the other did not. Mostly false: only marginal changes. False: leverage was the same or higher and ROA returned to or exceeded pre-crisis levels.
Evidence
- Quarterly Trends for Consolidated U.S. Banking Organizations, Second quarter 2012 Federal Reserve Bank of New York
“Banking industry profitability, as measured by annualized return on assets (ROA), increased from 0.73% to 0.77% in 2012:Q2. While ROA has recovered in recent years from its low of -1.82% in 2008:Q4, it remains below average precrisis levels of greater than 1%.”
- On the Scale of Financial Intermediaries (Staff Report No. 743) Federal Reserve Bank of New York · October 2015
“Intriguingly, we have documented a structural break with the onset of the 2008 financial crisis that has subdued both the market leverage of the bank but also its book equity growth.”
- On the Scale of Financial Intermediaries (Staff Report No. 743) Federal Reserve Bank of New York · October 2015
“For commercial banks, we observe a similar decline in trend growth, albeit at much less dramatic rates: total asset growth rate declines from 2.5% to 0.5% and book equity growth rate declines from 3.5% to 0.4% percent.”
Reasoning
The New York Fed's 2012:Q2 banking trends report [E1] says industry ROA had recovered from its 2008:Q4 low but, at 0.77%, was still below the average pre-crisis level of more than 1%. That supports the ROA part of the claim for the years after the crisis. A 2015 New York Fed staff report [E2] found a structural break starting with the 2008 crisis that "subdued" banks' market leverage and book equity growth. It also reports slower growth in commercial bank assets [E3]. Both parts appear to hold. However, the leverage evidence is indirect: it gives no equity-to-assets ratios for 2009–2013 compared with 2004–2006. That keeps the verdict at mostly true rather than true.
Cite this claim
Michael Burry, “Less leverage and lower returns on assets are now likely for financial institutions.” (said 2008). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_8033b562bb8c, method 0.1.0+c876030c. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_8033b562bb8c
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