After a 50% loss in value, an investment needs a 100% return to get back to its starting value.
Resolved true The record shows it happened or was so.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
What would count as true or false
This is an arithmetic claim. After a 50% loss, the value is 0.5 of the original, so returning to the start needs a gain of 1/0.5 − 1 = 100%. True: the calculation confirms 100%. False: the correct required return differs from 100%. The accompanying 75% case is not part of the proposition as stated.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (4)
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E1 Required recovery rate Exceljet · 18 January 2023
“A 50% loss does not require a 50% gain to recover the loss, it actually requires a 100% gain.”
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E2 Downside financial risk is misunderstood | Judgment and Decision Making | Cambridge Core Cambridge University Press (Judgment and Decision Making journal) · 4 September 2016
“It takes a subsequent 100% return to recover from a 50% loss.”
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E3 Common trading mistakes and the math behind them | Finabase Finabase · 30 October 2026
“After a 50% loss, $10,000 becomes $5,000, and $5,000 has to double to get back to $10,000.”
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E4 50 Giants: Bridgewater's Ray Dalio The Hedge Fund Journal · 1 October 2024 Own record
“We realized we did not want to have a drawdown greater than one third, because a 50% drawdown would require a 100% return for recovery, and a 75% drawdown would require a 300% recovery.”
Reasoning
The claim is arithmetic: after a 50% loss, 0.5 of the original value remains, and getting back to the start takes a gain of 1/0.5 − 1 = 100%. Independent sources agree. A peer-reviewed paper says a 100% return is needed to recover from a 50% loss (E2), and Exceljet (E1) and Finabase (E3) both show the remaining value has to double. The proposition holds as stated.
Cite this claim
Ray Dalio, “After a 50% loss in value, an investment needs a 100% return to get back to its starting value.” (said 1 February 2018). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_eb551ea076ea, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_eb551ea076ea
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
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