ClaimsRodney Brooks

“But do note that they have two human drivers onboard.”

Rodney Brooks, writing on X 20 August 2019 Post by @rodneyabrooks on X, 2019-08-20 (X)

Factual Technology

The driverless vehicles in question have two human drivers onboard.

Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.

Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?

The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.

What would count as true or false

Identify the driverless or autonomous vehicles the 20 August 2019 Brooks post refers to (from the post's context, e.g. a specific autonomous-truck or robotaxi pilot). True: contemporaneous reports or company statements show those vehicles operated with two humans on board in driver or safety-operator roles (e.g. a safety driver plus an engineer or second operator) at the time. Mostly true: there were two humans on board but only one was strictly a 'driver' (the other being an engineer or monitor), or this held for most but not all runs. Mostly false: only one human safety driver was on board, or the two-person setup applied only to an early phase that had ended by August 2019. False: the vehicles ran with no human on board, or the reports describe a clearly different staffing arrangement.

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Evidence (4)

  1. E1 New York City’s first self-driving shuttle service is now open for business The Verge · 6 August 2019

    “Each car has two safety drivers: one behind the wheel and one in the passenger seat monitoring the vehicle’s sensors from a laptop.”
  2. E2 Strapping into Brooklyn’s new self-driving shuttles City & State New York · 7 August 2019

    “It’s possible the ride felt so smooth because two safety drivers – one whose hands hovered over the wheel and another who monitored sensors on a laptop screen – were on standby in case something went wrong.”
  3. E3 ‘Self-driving’ vehicles may need human help for a while yet - The Boston Globe The Boston Globe · 18 August 2019

    “The computer operator gave his colleague in the driver’s seat the go-ahead.”
  4. E4 UPS buys stake in self-driving outfit TuSimple FreightWaves · 15 August 2019

    “UPS began hauling cargo with TuSimple trucks in May 2019, with a driver and engineer in the vehicle.”

Reasoning

The evidence shows two safety drivers on New York City's Brooklyn self-driving shuttles in August 2019 (E1, E2), and a driver plus an engineer on TuSimple trucks for UPS (E4). None of the evidence links the 20 August 2019 post to a specific service, so the criteria cannot be applied to identified vehicles.

Cite this claim

Rodney Brooks, “The driverless vehicles in question have two human drivers onboard.” (said 20 August 2019). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_e4058db32551, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_e4058db32551

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