ClaimsRodney Brooks

“The long tail is not solved by learning, fire chief not happy with humanless vehicles in SF”

Rodney Brooks, on X 22 June 2023 Post by @rodneyabrooks on X, 2023-06-22 (X)

Factual Technology

The San Francisco fire chief is unhappy with driverless vehicles in the city.

Resolved true The record shows it happened or was so.

Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?

What would count as true or false

True if, as of 2023-06-22, the San Francisco Fire Chief (Jeanine Nicholson) had publicly expressed dissatisfaction or concern about driverless (robotaxi) vehicles operating in San Francisco, for example over interference with fire operations. Mostly true if the criticism came from the fire department under the chief's authority but was not voiced by the chief personally. Mostly false if only lower-level fire officials complained and the chief was neutral. False if the evidence shows the chief had expressed no such concern by that date, or had endorsed the vehicles.

Set before the research began.

Evidence (4)

  1. E1 San Francisco's fire chief is fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks. And L.A. is next Los Angeles Times · 22 June 2023

    ““They’re not ready for prime time,” Chief Jeanine Nicholson said.”
  2. E2 San Francisco's fire chief is fed up with robotaxis that mess with her firetrucks. And L.A. is next Los Angeles Times · 22 June 2023

    ““But we need to fix what’s not working right now, before they are unleashed on the rest of the city.””
  3. E3 SF Says Driverless Car Problems ‘Skyrocketing,’ Techies Fume at Our Lack of Enthusiasm for the Glitches SFist · 14 July 2023

    ““It really, really concerns me that something is going to go horribly wrong,” the department’s chief Jeanine Nicholson told the Chronicle.”
  4. E4 Vote Postponed On Robotaxi Expansion Amid First Responder Backlash Patch (CBS San Francisco news partner) · 28 June 2023

    “According to Assistant Deputy Chief Darius Luttropp of the SF Fire Department (SFFD), an increasing number of non-life-threatening incidents involving self-driving cars are hindering their ability to respond effectively.”

Reasoning

An LA Times article dated 2023-06-22 quotes Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson by name saying robotaxis are "not ready for prime time" and need fixes before expanding across the city (E1, E2). This is public dissatisfaction voiced by the chief herself on the judge-as-of date. The criteria count public concern from the chief about driverless vehicles in San Francisco, and on 2023-06-22 she was quoted saying they were "not ready for prime time" and that what is not working needs to be fixed first [E1][E2]. A later report has her saying she was seriously concerned (E3), which fits the earlier quotes.

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Rodney Brooks, “The San Francisco fire chief is unhappy with driverless vehicles in the city.” (said 22 June 2023). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_bd40cbf4695d, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_bd40cbf4695d

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