The government stimulus produced very little new economic activity in the US.
Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.
What would count as true or false
Judge the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (and related federal stimulus) against authoritative estimates of its effect on US output and employment through mid-2010. Retrospective studies of that period are acceptable. True: the main estimates, such as CBO and leading academic studies, find negligible effects on GDP or jobs. Mostly true: most estimates find small effects (e.g. multipliers well below 1), with a few finding larger ones. Mixed: credible estimates are roughly split between small and substantial effects. Mostly false: the predominant estimates, such as CBO's range of roughly 1.5–4% added to GDP in 2010, find meaningful effects, and the claim leans on a minority of low-multiplier studies. False: estimates consistently find substantial effects, and no credible studies support 'very little'.
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Evidence (4)
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E1 Estimated Impact of ARRA on Employment and Economic Output From July 2010 Through September 2010 Congressional Budget Office · 24 November 2010
“They raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product by between 1.4 percent and 4.1 percent,”
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E2 More Evidence on Why the Stimulus Didn't Work economicsone.com (John B. Taylor) · 30 October 2010
“However, John Cogan, Volker Wieland, Tobias Cwik, and I found that the multiplier in the case of ARRA was much smaller, around .7. Robert Barro argues that it is zero. So there is debate.”
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E3 More Evidence on Why the Stimulus Didn't Work economicsone.com (John B. Taylor) · 30 October 2010
“The example of 1.5 is at the upper range of estimates, and was used in a paper by Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein to estimate the impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA).”
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E4 More Evidence on Why the Stimulus Didn't Work economicsone.com (John B. Taylor) · 30 October 2010
“Despite the gigantic $862 billion stimulus package, the change in government purchases due to ARRA has been immaterial to the economic recovery: government purchases increased by only 2 percent of the $862 billion package ($18 billion).”
Reasoning
The evidence includes one estimate of substantial effects, CBO's 1.4–4.1 percent added to GDP in July to September 2010 (E1), and lower estimates from Taylor (about 0.7) and Barro (zero), which Taylor describes as a debate and against which he calls 1.5 the upper range (E2, E3). It does not show whether the main estimates find meaningful or small effects, which is what the criteria use to separate mostly false from mixed or mostly true.
Cite this claim
Ray Dalio, “The government stimulus produced very little new economic activity in the US.” (said June 2010). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_cd6918161866, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_cd6918161866
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
Reply to this claim
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“you could still have financial problems, like the breakdown of the monetary system in 1971, okay?”
The monetary system broke down in 1971 while the United States was still a dominant power.
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Resolved true
“one-third of our debt is held by foreigners, so that’s a different thing.”
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