Visa CEO Al Kelly had not been willing to appear on camera to address the allegations as of 2 August 2022.
Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
What would count as true or false
Judge as of 2022-08-02. The claim is that Visa CEO Al Kelly had not appeared on camera (TV or video interview) to address the allegations, those reported in mid-2022 about Visa processing payments for Pornhub/MindGeek content. True: there is no on-camera interview or video statement by Kelly on the allegations before 2 August 2022, and reporting from that period confirms he had not done one or had declined. Mostly true: Kelly had not given an on-camera interview, but had addressed the matter through a minor video format, such as a brief internal video. Mixed: Kelly appeared on camera but avoided the topic, or the record is ambiguous. Mostly false: Kelly had addressed the allegations on camera in a limited way. False: Kelly had given a dedicated on-camera interview on the allegations before that date.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (5)
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E1 Visa, Mastercard react to Pornhub ruling Payments Dive · 5 August 2022
“In rare corporate commentary about pending litigation, Visa CEO Al Kelly on Thursday responded on Visa’s website to the widening spotlight on its involvement in the case.”
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E2 We do not tolerate using network for illegal activity Visa Inc. (corporate.visa.com) · 8 April 2022
“I also recognize that it is not customary for an executive to weigh in on legal matters in advance of a final ruling. This situation, however, is different, and as CEO – and a father and grandfather – I feel compelled to speak out.”
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E3 Bill Ackman says Visa ‘tomorrow could shut down Pornhub’s parent company that's facing a lawsuit over child pornography | Fortune Fortune · 2 August 2022
““Visa condemns sex trafficking, sexual exploitation, and child sexual abuse materials as repugnant to our values and purpose as a company,” a Visa spokesperson said.”
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E4 Short Blog – Key developments this week Starpoint LLP (blog) · 4 October 2022
“Al Kelly posted a fantastic response to this lunacy in July.”
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E5 26 -Jul -2022 Visa, Inc. FactSet CallStreet (corrected transcript of Visa Q3 2022 earnings call, hosted on Visa's investor-relations server) · 26 July 2022 Own record
“This call is being webcast on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.investor.visa.com.”
Reasoning
E1 and E2 show Kelly addressed the allegations through a written statement on Visa's website, not an on-camera appearance. E5 shows the Q3 2022 earnings call was webcast, but the quote does not show whether it was video or whether Kelly discussed the allegations. No evidence confirms that Kelly declined or had not given an on-camera interview, which the criteria require for "true", and none shows that he did. The record does not settle the claim.
Cite this claim
Bill Ackman, “Visa CEO Al Kelly had not been willing to appear on camera to address the allegations as of 2 August 2022.” (said 2 August 2022). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_4ca87537b80b, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_4ca87537b80b
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
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