ClaimsRay Dalio

“credit and liquidity is abundant and credit spreads are near record lows.”

Ray Dalio, writing in LinkedIn commentary 12 November 2025 Ray Dalio Warns the Fed May Be Stimulating Into a Bubble (The Acquirer's Multiple) archived copy

Factual Economics and markets

Credit and liquidity are abundant and credit spreads are near record lows.

Unresolvable The public record could not settle it.

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What would count as true or false

Judge conditions as of 12 November 2025. The main test is credit spreads. Use standard US (and, where available, global) corporate spread series such as the ICE BofA US High Yield and US Corporate (investment-grade) option-adjusted spreads, and compare their November 2025 levels with each series' full history. 'Near record lows' means within the lowest decile of the series' history, or within about 25% of the series' all-time low (e.g. an IG OAS within roughly 0.15–0.2 percentage points of its record low). 'Abundant credit and liquidity' means broad indicators show easy conditions: financial conditions indices (e.g. Chicago Fed NFCI) looser than average, strong corporate bond and leveraged loan issuance, and no widespread funding stress. TRUE: both IG and HY spreads are near record lows by that test and the liquidity indicators show easy conditions. MOSTLY TRUE: spreads are clearly in the tight historical range but only one of the main series meets the 'near record low' test, or one liquidity indicator is mixed, while the overall picture holds. MIXED: one of the two parts holds (e.g. liquidity is abundant but spreads are only moderately below average, or the reverse). MOSTLY FALSE: spreads are below their long-run average but well short of record-low territory (e.g. in the 25th–50th percentile), and liquidity is only average. FALSE: spreads are at or above their historical averages, or conditions show credit tightening or liquidity stress.

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Evidence (11)

  1. E1 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis), data from Ice Data Indices, LLC · 6 November 2023

    “| 2025-11-12 | 0.83 |”

  2. E2 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis), data from Ice Data Indices, LLC · 6 November 2023

    “| 2025-10-06 | 0.74 |”

  3. E3 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis), data from Ice Data Indices, LLC · 6 November 2023

    “| 2025-04-09 | 1.21 |”

  4. E4 Table Data - Chicago Fed National Financial Conditions Index FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis), data from Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago · 1 March 1995

    “Positive values of the NFCI indicate financial conditions that are tighter than average, while negative values indicate financial conditions that are looser than average.”

  5. E5 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| Title | ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread |”

  6. E6 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| 2025-11-12 | 0.83 |”

  7. E7 Table Data - ICE BofA US Corporate Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| 2025-10-06 | 0.74 |”

  8. E8 Table Data - Chicago Fed National Financial Conditions Index Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

    “Positive values of the NFCI indicate financial conditions that are tighter than average, while negative values indicate financial conditions that are looser than average.”

  9. E9 Table Data - ICE BofA US High Yield Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| 2025-11-12 | 3.02 |”

  10. E10 Table Data - ICE BofA US High Yield Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| 2025-01-22 | 2.59 |”

  11. E11 Table Data - ICE BofA US High Yield Index Option-Adjusted Spread Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (FRED), data from ICE Data Indices, LLC

    “| 2025-04-07 | 4.61 |”

Reasoning

FRED tables show that on 2025-11-12 the ICE BofA US Corporate (investment-grade) OAS was 0.83 and the US High Yield OAS was 3.02 (E1, E5, E6, E9). Earlier 2025 readings were lower: 0.74 for IG on 2025-10-06 and 2.59 for HY on 2025-01-22 (E7, E10). None of the evidence gives either series' full-history low, decile or average, so it cannot show whether these levels count as 'near record lows' under the criteria. The NFCI items (E4, E8) only define the index and give no value for November 2025, and no evidence covers issuance or funding stress, so the liquidity part also cannot be judged.

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Ray Dalio, “Credit and liquidity are abundant and credit spreads are near record lows.” (said 12 November 2025). Verdict: unresolvable. Reliability API, claim c_487c4c4ed15a, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_487c4c4ed15a

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