A decade before 2019, almost all of the major internet platforms were American.
Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.
Said for an organisation they lead or work for; it counts on both records.
What would count as true or false
Judged as of 2019-10-17, about 2009. True: rankings of the largest internet platforms around 2009, by global users or traffic (for example Alexa top sites or Mary Meeker's Internet Trends), show that almost all (roughly 80–90% or more) of the top platforms were US-based. Mostly true: a clear majority were American but noticeably less than 'almost all', for example about 70–80% of a top-10 or top-20 list. Mixed: about half to two-thirds were American. Mostly false: fewer than half were American, or many non-US platforms such as Baidu, Tencent/QQ or Yandex were among the majors. False: American platforms were a clear minority of the top platforms.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (9)
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E1 The Most Visited Websites Every Year Since 1995 Hosting.com · 24 January 2024
“The 10 Most Visited Websites in 2009 | Rank | Website | Monthly Visits (June) | | 1 | Yahoo.com | 10,573,351,000 |”
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E2 9月の世界Webサイト訪問者ランキング、最も利用されたのはMicrosoft（comScore調べ） ITmedia · 9 November 2009
“| 5 | Tencent | 893 | 589 | 52 |”
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E3 comScore – Search Marketing Communications Search Marketing Communications (Tim Cohn blog) · 16 October 2009
“Google Sites ranked as the #1 property in September with 165 million visitors, followed by Yahoo! Sites with 160 million visitors and Microsoft Sites with 133 million visitors.”
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E4 «Яндекс» растет быстрее всех поисковиков в мире CNews · 1 September 2009
“На третьем месте оказался китайский поисковик Baidu с 8 млрд поисковых запросов и долей в 7%, увеличив долю на 8%. «Яндекс» в этом рейтинге занял восьмую позицию.”
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E5 The Most Visited Websites Every Year Since 1995 Hosting.com · 24 January 2024
“The 10 Most Visited Websites in 2009 | Rank | Website | Monthly Visits (June) | | 1 | Yahoo.com | 10,573,351,000 | | 2 | Google.com | 9,325,801,000 | | 3 | YouTube.com | 2,762,898,000 | | 4 | Facebook.com | 2,525,012,000 | | 5 | Amazon.com | 1,291,697,000 | | 6 | MSN.com | 1,231,751,000 | | 7 | Ask.com | 1,200,840,000 | | 8 | Yandex.com | 1,063,153,000 | | 9 | Wikipedia.org | 923,866,000 | | 10 | BBC.com | 886,215,000 |”
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E6 Top 50 Web Properties Search Marketing Communications (Tim Cohn blog) · 16 October 2009
“Google Sites ranked as the #1 property in September with 165 million visitors, followed by Yahoo! Sites with 160 million visitors and Microsoft Sites with 133 million visitors.”
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E7 Comscore 2010 - Rapport premier semestre comScore (via SlideShare) · 11 June 2010
“Top 20 Properties by Global Reach Dec 2009 vs. Dec 2008 Internet Users Ages 15+ Accessing the Internet from a Home or Work Computer December 2009 14.2% +97% Television Broadcasts Limited in HK % Reach % Reach 28.0% 1 Google Sites 73.6 11 Apple Inc. 17.1”
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E8 Global Search Market Grows 46 Percent in 2009 (comScore press release) comScore, Inc. · 22 January 2010
“Yahoo! Sites ranked second globally with 9.4 billion searches (up 13 percent), followed by Chinese search engine Baidu with 8.5 billion searches (up 7 percent).”
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E9 The Open Debate on Chinese Internet Proliferation ianbell.com (personal blog) · 22 July 2009
“Search Engine Baidu (#9), IM chat and portal QQ (#14), and portal Sina.com.cn (#18).”
Reasoning
A June 2009 top-10 list of most-visited websites (E5) is mostly US platforms (Yahoo, Google, YouTube, Facebook, Amazon, MSN, Ask, Wikipedia). Yandex and BBC are the two exceptions, so about 80% are American. The comScore December 2009 top-20 global properties (E7) is led by Google Sites. However, several non-US platforms ranked among the majors. A comScore September 2009 ranking places Tencent fifth (E2). Baidu was the third-largest search engine worldwide in 2009 (E9, E4). Another 2009 ranking places Baidu, QQ and Sina in its top 20 (E10). So a clear majority of the major platforms were American, but the share is somewhat below 'almost all'.
Cite this claim
Mark Zuckerberg, “A decade before 2019, almost all of the major internet platforms were American.” (said 17 October 2019). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_02f0c160fccb, method 0.1.0+3f84d14d, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_02f0c160fccb
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
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