6,750 claims · page 53 of 68
| Verdict | Person | Kind | Said | Claim | Topic |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Unresolvable | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | FiveThirtyEight's forecast gave Trump only a 20 percent chance of winning given his polling numbers at the time of the second debate. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Other |
| Mostly true | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | The two scientific polls after the second 2016 presidential debate showed a Clinton win, but a more marginal one than after the first debate. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Science and research methods |
| Mostly true | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | Silver said that all the scientific polls after the first 2016 presidential debate showed Clinton had won by a pretty emphatic margin. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Science and research methods |
| Resolved true | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | Scientific post-debate polls showed voters thought Clinton did better in the second 2016 presidential debate. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Science and research methods |
| Unresolvable | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | Silver said he thought "we" had the team, then playing in the NLDS, at "a 35 percent chance or something" of winning the three series in a row it still needed, and that the figure was rising. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Other |
| Mixed | Nate Silver | Factual | 11 Oct 2016 | Other forecasts gave Trump even lower chances than the 20 percent in Silver's forecast with numbers like those: five or ten percent. Nate Silver · Factual · 11 Oct 2016 | Other |
| Unresolvable | Yann LeCun | Promise | 28 Jul 2016 | LeCun will teach his NYU deep learning course again in the Spring of 2017. Yann LeCun · Promise · 28 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | There have been a number of recent works putting graphical models on top of ConvNets and training end to end. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | AI capabilities |
| Unresolvable | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | There have been many proposals to combine neural nets and structured prediction, going back to the early 1990s. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | AI capabilities |
| Mostly true | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | The check reading system LeCun and a colleague built at Bell Labs in the early 1990s used structured prediction on top of convolutional nets, called Graph Transformer Networks. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | AI capabilities |
| Unresolvable | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | Videos of LeCun's 2015 NYU deep learning course lectures were taken down for legal reasons, while the slides remain available. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | Yann LeCun gave a recent series of 8 lectures on deep learning at Collège de France in Paris. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Yann LeCun | Factual | 28 Jul 2016 | LeCun's Collège de France lectures were taught in French and later dubbed in English. Yann LeCun · Factual · 28 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Berkshire has a provision that in any corporate transaction Class A stock cannot be treated differently from Class B stock. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Buffett has given away about 40% of his Berkshire shares as of July 2016. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Peter Thiel | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Thiel does not agree with every plan in the Republican Party's platform. Peter Thiel · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | When Buffett gives away his Berkshire shares, he always converts the Class A voting stock into Class B stock first. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Peter Thiel | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Among candidates in the 2016 race, only Donald Trump is being honest about America's economic decline. Peter Thiel · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Berkshire does not use consultants or advisory organizations to direct how it votes its shares. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | In certain countries there are various ways for workers to participate in company governance. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Philosophy, ethics and society |
| Mostly true | Warren Buffett | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | New constituencies in corporate governance, such as activists, have become stronger over the years. Warren Buffett · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Philosophy, ethics and society |
| Unresolvable | Peter Thiel | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | In Thiel's childhood the great national debate was about defeating the Soviet Union, whereas now the great debate is said to be about who gets to use which bathroom. Peter Thiel · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Philosophy, ethics and society |
| Resolved true | Peter Thiel | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Neither Peter Thiel nor Donald Trump is a politician. Peter Thiel · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Peter Thiel | Factual | 21 Jul 2016 | Peter Thiel builds companies and supports people building new things, from social networks to rocket ships. Peter Thiel · Factual · 21 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly false | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | As the technology matures, all Tesla vehicles will have the hardware necessary to be fully self-driving with fail-operational capability. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | Worldwide regulatory approval of self-driving will require on the order of 6 billion miles (10 billion km) of driving data. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla Autopilot miles will soon exceed twice 89 million miles, i.e. over 178 million miles. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly false | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | When used correctly, Tesla's Autopilot is already significantly safer than a person driving alone. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | In cities where demand exceeds the supply of customer-owned cars, Tesla will operate its own ride-hailing fleet. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | A vehicle cheaper than the Model 3 is unlikely to be necessary for Tesla. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla plans to address most of the consumer vehicle market with the Model 3, a future compact SUV and a new kind of pickup truck. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly false | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla will remove the beta label from Autopilot once it is approximately 10 times safer than the US vehicle average. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | Adding cars to a Tesla shared fleet will lower the true cost of ownership to the point where almost anyone could own a Tesla. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly true | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | Providing solar power has been on Tesla's website for 10 years. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | Refinement and validation of self-driving software will take much longer than installing the cameras, radar, sonar and computing hardware. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla's fleet learning is currently happening at just over 3 million miles (5 million km) per day. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla believes the Tesla Semi will deliver a substantial reduction in the cost of cargo transport while increasing safety. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | Every Tesla Autopilot release goes through extensive internal validation before reaching any customers. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | The economic utility of a true self-driving car is likely to be several times that of a non-self-driving car. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | The first Tesla master plan, written by Elon Musk 10 years before 2016, is in the final stages of completion. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | With autonomy, it will probably make sense to shrink buses and turn bus drivers into fleet managers. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Factual | 20 Jul 2016 | Musk said that starting with step 1 was all he could afford to do with what he made from PayPal. Elon Musk · Factual · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly false | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla's version 1.0 of its Model 3 factory machine will probably arrive in 2018. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | When regulators approve true self-driving, Tesla owners will be able to summon their Tesla from pretty much anywhere. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Elon Musk | Prediction | 20 Jul 2016 | A first-principles physics analysis suggests that a 5 to 10 fold improvement in automotive production is achievable by version 3 of Tesla's factory machine, on a roughly 2-year iteration cycle. Elon Musk · Prediction · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved false | Elon Musk | Promise | 20 Jul 2016 | Tesla plans to create an integrated solar-roof-with-battery product and scale it throughout the world. Elon Musk · Promise · 20 Jul 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Sam Altman | Factual | Jun 2016 | In his first blog post on Trump, in June 2016, Sam Altman said it would be a good time for everyone to start speaking up. Sam Altman · Factual · Jun 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Bill Ackman | Factual | 28 Jan 2016 | In 2015 there was no financial crisis, except perhaps in the energy, commodity and currency markets. Bill Ackman · Factual · 28 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | 28 Jan 2016 | Pershing Square missed the opportunity in 2015 to trim or sell certain positions that approached its estimate of intrinsic value. Bill Ackman · Factual · 28 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 90% probability that UNSONG would get fewer hits than Slate Star Codex in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | There will be no earthquake in the world killing more than 10,000 people in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | The subject gave an 80% probability that Bitcoin would end 2016 higher than $500. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 60% probability that the US would not get involved in any new major war with a death toll above 100 US soldiers in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 60% probability that Donald Trump would win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Own records only | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander will score at or above the 95th percentile on next year's PRITE (psychiatry in-training exam). Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | No major war in Asia (over 100 Chinese, Japanese, South Korean and American deaths combined) over disputed islands will occur in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Mostly true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave an 80% probability that there would be no major intifada in Israel in 2016 (over 250 Israeli deaths, excluding a Cast Lead style war). Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 95% probability that Hillary Clinton would win the Democratic nomination. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Resolved false | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave an 80% probability that, if Trump won the Republican nomination, he would lose the 2016 general election. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Research failed | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | The occupation of the Oregon ranger station will end in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 60% probability that Assad would remain President of Syria. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | The Dow Jones will not fall more than 10% in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander will not stop using Twitter, Tumblr, or Facebook in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 90% probability that ISIS would control less territory at the end of 2016 than it did in January 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Ukraine will neither break into all-out war nor get neatly resolved in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Resolved false | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 60% probability that ISIS would not continue to exist as a state entity by the end of 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Oil will end 2016 lower than $40 a barrel. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Scott Alexander | Factual | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander makes predictions at the start of every year and scores them at the end of each year. Scott Alexander · Factual · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander will still be at his current job at the end of 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Republicans will keep control of the US Senate after the 2016 elections. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Resolved true | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave an 80% probability that Libya would remain a mess. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Resolved false | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 60% chance that Hillary Clinton would win the 2016 US Presidency. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 95% probability that Greece would not announce in 2016 that it was leaving the euro. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | US unemployment will be lower at the end of 2016 than at the beginning. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander gave a 95% probability that North Korea's government would survive 2016 without a large civil war or revolt. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Other global risks |
| Own records only | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Scott Alexander will attend at least one Solstice event in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Scott Alexander | Prediction | 25 Jan 2016 | Nobody important will change their mind much about the EMDrive based on information found in 2016. Scott Alexander · Prediction · 25 Jan 2016 | Science and research methods |
| Unresolvable | Sam Altman | Factual | 12 Jan 2016 | The Department of Health and Human Services released a lot of new data the day before (2016-01-11) showing how the ACA helped support entrepreneurs. Sam Altman · Factual · 12 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Sam Altman | Factual | 12 Jan 2016 | The Affordable Care Act definitely helped a lot of founders start their companies. Sam Altman · Factual · 12 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Sam Altman | Factual | 12 Jan 2016 | Without the ACA, being a founder would make sense for fewer people. Sam Altman · Factual · 12 Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Even the largest index funds have only about 20 people (one per ~1,000 companies) in their governance departments. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Jeremy Grantham | Prediction | Jan 2016 | U.S. fracking oil will soon run off, revealing rising costs of finding ever-diminishing new oil pools. Jeremy Grantham · Prediction · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square bought additional Platform Specialty Products stock at $25 per share to help the company finance an acquisition. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Unresolvable | Jeremy Grantham | Prediction | Jan 2016 | Grantham guessed that the price of oil would be as high as $100 a barrel again within five years. Jeremy Grantham · Prediction · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Jeremy Grantham | Prediction | Jan 2016 | The shift to alternative fuels (electric vehicles, storage, climate policy, carbon taxes) is likely to cause oil's final paradigm shift. Jeremy Grantham · Prediction · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Resolved true | Jeremy Grantham | Factual | Jan 2016 | China uses a much larger fraction of total global minerals than it does of global oil. Jeremy Grantham · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | In 2015 Pershing Square missed opportunities to trim or sell positions that approached its estimate of intrinsic value. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square's currency puts have not served as a useful hedge against declines in its portfolio, which fell more than expected given limited China and oil exposure. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | As of early 2016 Pershing Square had made only a modest profit on its yuan and Saudi Riyal hedge investments. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Jeremy Grantham | Prediction | Jan 2016 | A 60% stock/40% bond portfolio would be lucky to deliver 3% a year even if current high P/Es and above-normal margins were locked in. Jeremy Grantham · Prediction · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly false | Jeremy Grantham | Prediction | Jan 2016 | In 12 to 24 months U.S. house prices might beat the U.S. equity market in causing the next financial crisis. Jeremy Grantham · Prediction · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Jeremy Grantham | Factual | Jan 2016 | Near the 2000 peak Grantham challenged audiences, perhaps 2000 professionals in total, to find a bubble that had not fully broken, and he said no one offered one. Jeremy Grantham · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square has had limited turnover on its investment team and throughout the firm since its inception. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly true | Jeremy Grantham | Factual | Jan 2016 | In his previous quarterly letter written in January, Grantham said market commentators were too pessimistic on global stock markets, especially the U.S. Jeremy Grantham · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Mostly true | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square has never attempted to hedge short-term market movements but has sought inexpensive hedges against the risk of dramatic market declines. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square continues to hold its yuan and Saudi Riyal currency put investments as of early 2016. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Mostly true | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Vanguard, BlackRock and State Street often cumulatively own 12%, and as much as 20%, of nearly every public company. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Own records only | Jeremy Grantham | Factual | Jan 2016 | Grantham's 2011 resources report got many multiples of the hits of a typical GMO quarterly letter. Jeremy Grantham · Factual · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
| Own records only | Bill Ackman | Factual | Jan 2016 | Early in 2015 Pershing Square believed the Chinese stock market was in bubble territory but found the cost of buying puts on it prohibitive. Bill Ackman · Factual · Jan 2016 | Economics and markets |
| Unresolvable | Bill Ackman | Promise | Jan 2016 | Pershing Square expects to add at least one new investment to its portfolio in the next few months after January 2016. Bill Ackman · Promise · Jan 2016 | Their own work or organisation |
“It is important to emphasize that refinement and validation of the software will take much longer than putting in place the cameras, radar, sonar and computing hardware.”
Elon Musk, Tesla CEO, blog author 20 July 2016 Master Plan, Part Deux (Tesla)
Refinement and validation of self-driving software will take much longer than installing the cameras, radar, sonar and computing hardware.
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The second judge would not resolve this claim; the verdict shown is the first judge's.
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What would count as true or false
The claim is that getting self-driving software refined and validated will take much longer than putting the sensor and computer hardware into Tesla cars. Judge on evidence available when the claim is assessed. TRUE: Tesla put the self-driving hardware suite into production vehicles (from about late 2016), and validated full self-driving software, meaning approved or deployed for driving without a supervising driver, came years later or has still not come. MOSTLY TRUE: the software clearly lagged the hardware, but by less than 'much longer' (roughly a year or less). FALSE: validated full self-driving software was ready about as soon as the hardware was in place, or sooner.
Evidence
- IN RE: TESLA ADVANCED DRIVER ASSISTANCE SYSTEMS LITIGATION (2025) | FindLaw FindLaw · 3 September 2025
“Basic news is that all cars exiting the factory have hardware necessary for Level 5 Autonomy so that's in terms of Cameras, Compute Power, it's in every car we make on the order 2,000 cars a week are shipping now”
- IN RE: TESLA ADVANCED DRIVER ASSISTANCE SYSTEMS LITIGATION (2025) | FindLaw FindLaw · 3 September 2025
“Plaintiff presents evidence that Tesla has not applied for regulatory approval to deploy a Society of Automotive Engineers (“SAE”) Level 3 or higher vehicle in California, which is a necessary step for approval of a full self-driving vehicle.”
- First unattended Model Y robotaxi rides don't let passengers take over Notebookcheck · 22 January 2026
“While Tesla will merge the two branches later this year, allowing 2026 Model Y owners with HW4 kit to loan their vehicles to the Robotaxi platform and earn some extra cash, for now the truly unsupervised rides are only available in Austin.”
- Tesla’s Cybercab Robotaxi Is Probably Not ‘Unsupervised.’ Here’s Why Forbes · 28 October 2026
“Tesla have not stated they have stopped remote safety monitors.”
Reasoning
A federal court opinion quotes Musk saying that all cars leaving the factory already had the hardware needed for Level 5 autonomy (E1). The same opinion records the plaintiff's evidence that, as of 2025, Tesla had not applied for California approval to deploy an SAE Level 3 or higher vehicle (E2). A January 2026 report says truly unsupervised robotaxi rides were available only in Austin (E3), and an October 2026 column argues even those may still be remotely monitored (E4). Taken together, the evidence shows that software approved or deployed without a supervising driver came years after the hardware, or has still not fully come, which meets the TRUE criterion.
Cite this claim
Elon Musk, “Refinement and validation of self-driving software will take much longer than installing the cameras, radar, sonar and computing hardware.” (said 20 July 2016). Verdict: resolved true. Reliability API, claim c_7a8ae85708b6, method 0.1.0+c876030c. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_7a8ae85708b6
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