ARPA (now DARPA) funded a military network originally conceived for nuclear command and control.
Mostly false False in substance, right in a detail.
Factual: Statements about the present or the past, checked against the record: did they hold up?
What would count as true or false
There are two elements: (a) ARPA funded the ARPANET, a network funded by the military; (b) the network was originally conceived for nuclear command and control. True: historical sources show both, i.e. the ARPANET's own original purpose was nuclear command and control or survivable military communications. Mostly true: ARPA funded it, and its conception was substantially driven by survivable or nuclear-era military communications needs, with only a minor overstatement. Mixed: historians are genuinely divided on whether nuclear command and control was part of the ARPANET's original rationale, with credible sources on both sides. Mostly false: ARPA funded the ARPANET, but the authoritative histories (for example its planners' accounts) say it was conceived for sharing computing resources among researchers, and the nuclear-survivability idea comes from related but separate work (such as Paul Baran's work at RAND) that the claim conflates with it. False: ARPA did not fund the network, or there is no connection to military or nuclear communications at all.
Set before the research began.
Evidence (4)
-
E1 ARPANET - Wikipedia Wikipedia
“The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was the first wide-area packet-switched network with distributed control and one of the first computer networks to implement the TCP/IP protocol suite. Both technologies became the technical foundation of the Internet. The ARPANET was established by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (now DARPA) of the United States Department of Defense.”
-
E2 ARPANET - Wikipedia Wikipedia
“The ARPANET was not started to create a Command and Control System that would survive a nuclear attack, as many now claim. To build such a system was, clearly, a major military need, but it was not ARPA's mission to do this”
-
E3 ARPANET - Wikipedia Wikipedia
“Later, in the 1970s, ARPA did emphasize the goal of "command and control". According to Stephen J. Lukasik, who was deputy director (1967–1970) and Director of DARPA (1970–1975):”
-
E4 [ih] When the words Internet was design to survive a nuclear war appeared for the first time? Internet Society (internet-history mailing list) · 14 February 2019
“Larry Roberts was clear that the ARPANET was intended to support resource sharing.”
Reasoning
E1 confirms that the Advanced Research Projects Agency (now DARPA), part of the US Department of Defense, set up the ARPANET. That supports the funding element, since the network was established by ARPA, a Defense Department agency. However, E2 says the ARPANET "was not started to create a Command and Control System that would survive a nuclear attack". E4 records that planner Larry Roberts was clear the network was meant for resource sharing. E3 says ARPA emphasized "command and control" later, in the 1970s; together with E2 and E4, this indicates that nuclear command and control was not the network's original purpose, so the claim overstates the network's origins.
Cite this claim
Marc Andreessen, “ARPA (now DARPA) funded a military network originally conceived for nuclear command and control.” (said 28 May 2017). Verdict: mostly false. Reliability API, claim c_e222596058b3, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_e222596058b3
This claim is in dataset release v1.1.2, with the same verdict.
Reply to this claim
More factual claims by Marc Andreessen
-
Resolved true
“There are 5 billion people on Earth using some version of mobile broadband Internet.”
There are 5 billion people on Earth using some version of mobile broadband Internet.
-
Mostly true
“energy experts say that all carbon-based electrical power generation on the planet could be replaced by a few thousand new zero-emission nuclear reactors, so let’s build those.”
-
Resolved true
“We had the Concord. Now, we don’t even have the Concord.”
Supersonic passenger flight with the Concorde existed previously but no longer exists.
-
Mostly true
“Basically it was well known in 1992 that the internet was for academics and nerds, and there was no use case for ordinary people.”
-
Mostly true
“I went to college at the University of Illinois which at that time was one of four universities in the country that had been funded by the government to be the hubs for what at the time was called…”
Verdicts are made automatically; how verdicts are made.