ClaimsMark Zuckerberg

“and this is just Meta, I think we, like, make twice as much profit or something.”

Mark Zuckerberg, Meta CEO 10 January 2025 Transcript of Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan Podcast (The Singju Post)

Factual Economics and markets

Without Apple's rules and fees, Meta would make about twice as much profit, by Zuckerberg's rough calculation.

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It is Zuckerberg's rough private calculation of Meta's hypothetical profit, so no public record exists.

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Mark Zuckerberg, “Without Apple's rules and fees, Meta would make about twice as much profit, by Zuckerberg's rough calculation.” (said 10 January 2025). Verdict: own records only. Reliability API, claim c_6d0a330fcd88, method 0.1.0+3f84d14d, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_6d0a330fcd88

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