ClaimsElon Musk

“NASA called and told us we won a $1.5 billion contract,”

Elon Musk, SpaceX CEO, interviewed on 60 Minutes 3 April 2014 Why SpaceX's Elon Musk Says 2008 Was His 'Worst Year' Ever (Space.com) archived copy

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NASA called SpaceX to tell it that it had won a $1.5 billion contract.

Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.

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What would count as true or false

Judge as of 2014-04-03 against the historical record. True: in December 2008 NASA told SpaceX it had won a contract (the Commercial Resupply Services award) worth about $1.5 billion, i.e. a stated value within ±5% of $1.5bn. Whether the news came by phone is a minor detail: a documented December 2008 notification by other means still counts. Mostly true: the award and the December 2008 timing are right but the contract value was further from $1.5bn, between 5% and 15% away (e.g. $1.6bn), or the award was announced within a few days of December 2008 in a way that does not change the story. Mostly false: SpaceX did win a NASA contract around then, but the value is more than 15% off or the date is clearly wrong (a different month or year). False: no NASA contract award to SpaceX of that kind occurred around December 2008.

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Evidence (4)

  1. E1 Spaceflight Now | Breaking News Spaceflight Now · 23 December 2008

    “Orbital Sciences Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies - SpaceX - today won NASA contracts valued at up to $1.9 billion and $1.6 billion respectively for 20 unmanned space station cargo flights”
  2. E2 Spaceflight Now | Breaking News Spaceflight Now · 23 December 2008

    “"We're looking at potentially 12 flights from SpaceX valued at $1.6 billion," Gerstenmaier said.”
  3. E3 NASA Taps SpaceX, Orbital Sciences to Haul Cargo to Space Station Space.com · 23 December 2008

    “NASA has agreed to pay $1.6 billion for 12 flights of SpaceX's planned Dragon spacecraft and their Falcon 9 boosters.”
  4. E4 Year: 2008 U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Space Commercialization · 23 December 2008

    “Today, NASA announced contract awards to Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) and Orbital Sciences Corporation for International Space Station (ISS) Cargo Resupply Services (CRS), establishing the two companies as commercial cargo haulers to the ISS.”

Reasoning

Spaceflight Now and the Commerce Department's Office of Space Commercialization report that NASA awarded SpaceX the space station Commercial Resupply Services contract on 23 December 2008 (E1, E4). Spaceflight Now and Space.com both give SpaceX's contract value as $1.6 billion for 12 flights (E1, E2, E3), which is about 6.7% above the claimed $1.5 billion. The award and its December 2008 timing are right, but the value is 5–15% off, so under the criteria the claim is mostly true.

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Elon Musk, “NASA called SpaceX to tell it that it had won a $1.5 billion contract.” (said 3 April 2014). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_25b2cb3f3795, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_25b2cb3f3795

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