ClaimsTyler Cowen

“The UK continues to deindustrialize, business consulting is not the future, and London as a financial centre was hurt by 2008, Brexit, and superior innovations elsewhere.”

Tyler Cowen, blogger 6 December 2025 Two things that really matter (Marginal Revolution)

Factual Economics and markets

The UK continues to deindustrialize, and London's standing as a financial centre was hurt by 2008, Brexit and superior innovations elsewhere.

Mostly true True in substance, wrong in a detail.

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What would count as true or false

Judged as of 2025-12-06. The proposition has two parts: (a) the UK continues to deindustrialize, meaning manufacturing's share of GDP or employment is still falling in recent years; (b) London's standing as a financial centre was damaged by the 2008 crisis, Brexit and superior innovations elsewhere. True: ONS data show manufacturing share or employment still declining up to 2025, and credible evidence (for example Global Financial Centres Index rankings, relocation of jobs and listings, analyses) shows London's standing harmed, with all three causes credibly cited. Mostly true: both parts hold, but one of the three causes is weakly supported. Mixed: one part holds and the other does not, or only one of the three causes is supported. Mostly false: both parts are largely overstated, for example manufacturing output is stable and London's ranking is essentially unchanged, with only minor harms. False: data show reindustrialization and London's standing unharmed or improved.

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Evidence (12)

  1. E1 GDP monthly estimate, UK: October 2025 Office for National Statistics (ONS) · 12 December 2025

    “Manufacturing output fell by 0.7% in the three months to October 2025, compared with the three months to July 2025, with 6 of the 13 subsectors decreasing over this period.”
  2. E2 London as a financial centre since Brexit: evidence from the 2022 BIS Triennial Survey Bank for International Settlements (BIS Bulletin No 65) · 16 December 2022

    “Since Brexit, London has retained its pre-eminence as an IFC, and its role has eroded at the margin in only two lines.”
  3. E3 Brexit & The City: The Impact So Far New Financial · April 2021

    “This report highlights the damage that Brexit has already done to the City of London.”
  4. E4 Brexit & The City: The Impact So Far New Financial · April 2021

    “there is no question that London will remain the dominant financial centre in Europe for the foreseeable future.”
  5. E5 GDP monthly estimate, UK: October 2025 Office for National Statistics (ONS) · 12 December 2025

    “Manufacturing output fell by 0.7% in the three months to October 2025, compared with the three months to July 2025, with 6 of the 13 subsectors decreasing over this period.”
  6. E6 GDP monthly estimate, UK: October 2025 Office for National Statistics (ONS) · 12 December 2025

    “Output in all production subsectors increased in October 2025. This was caused by growths in manufacturing output (0.5%), mining and quarrying (4.3%), and electricity, gas, steam and air conditioning supply (2.1%).”
  7. E7 London as a financial centre since Brexit: evidence from the 2022 BIS Triennial Survey (BIS Bulletin No 65) Bank for International Settlements · 16 December 2022

    “Britain’s exit from the European Union (EU) in early 2021 left firms in London without a passport to offer financial services throughout the EU.”
  8. E8 London as a financial centre since Brexit: evidence from the 2022 BIS Triennial Survey (BIS Bulletin No 65) Bank for International Settlements · 16 December 2022

    “In March 2022, the Global Financial Centre Index again ranked London second behind New York (Wardle and Mainelli (2022)).”
  9. E9 UK Workforce Jobs SA : C Manufacturing (thousands) - Office for National Statistics Office for National Statistics · 20 October 2026

    “| 2023 | 2580 | | 2024 | 2555 |”
  10. E10 Global Financial Centres Index (GFCI) 4 - Long Finance City of London (report by Z/Yen Group) · September 2008

    “London has suffered more lasting reputational damage to its regulatory environment than New York.”
  11. E11 After the fracture: How Britain's financial industry recovered from Brexit Business Times (Reuters) · 21 June 2026

    “To keep serving clients across the 27-country EU, British firms that lost so-called passporting arrangements moved about 40,000 jobs to European financial hubs, according to estimates from the City of London Corporation”
  12. E12 London In Second Place After NYC As Top Global Financial Centre Ranking | Crowdfund Insider Crowdfund Insider · 26 March 2026

    “New York City remains at the top of the Index, followed by London, Hong Kong, Singapore, and San Francisco.”

Reasoning

On part (a), the ONS workforce-jobs series shows manufacturing jobs falling from 2,580k in 2023 to 2,555k in 2024 (E9), and ONS reports that manufacturing output fell 0.7% in the three months to October 2025 (E1). Against that, manufacturing output rose in the single month of October 2025 (E6). On part (b), Z/Yen's GFCI 4 from 2008 says London suffered lasting reputational damage to its regulatory environment (E10). Brexit-related harm is documented by the loss of EU passporting (E7), New Financial's finding of damage to the City (E3) and an estimated 40,000 jobs moved to EU hubs (E11). However, no evidence directly supports the third cause, superior innovations elsewhere, and London has stayed second in the GFCI (E8, E12) and remains pre-eminent (E2, E4). This fits the 'mostly true' criterion: both parts hold, but one cause is weakly supported.

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Tyler Cowen, “The UK continues to deindustrialize, and London's standing as a financial centre was hurt by 2008, Brexit and superior innovations elsewhere.” (said 6 December 2025). Verdict: mostly true. Reliability API, claim c_1a35adbcf0ab, method 0.1.0+c876030c, dataset release v1.1.2. https://epistacklabs.com/claims/c_1a35adbcf0ab

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